tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990922102626688253.post5045401706941321069..comments2023-04-15T11:42:35.385-04:00Comments on Go To Hellman: Toys and Tools vs. the Enterprise at Code4LibErichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14172740163003223132noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990922102626688253.post-56293233134490501602011-02-09T11:31:45.375-05:002011-02-09T11:31:45.375-05:00So true, so important.
I like Clay Shirky's t...So true, so important.<br /><br />I like Clay Shirky's terse expression of this principle: "You cannot simultaneously have mass adoption and rigour". The WWW took off in large part <i>because</i> it was a toy -- easy and fun to play with. It's easier to retrofit rigour to something popular than it is to retrofit popularity to something rigorous!Mike Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06039663158335543317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990922102626688253.post-48733192925260846212011-02-09T11:04:34.362-05:002011-02-09T11:04:34.362-05:00Timothy- thanks for the elaboration. Rabbit- I thi...Timothy- thanks for the elaboration. Rabbit- I think you're right, but "toy" was definitely a pejorative.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14172740163003223132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990922102626688253.post-27772003097323964942011-02-09T10:49:50.813-05:002011-02-09T10:49:50.813-05:00I'm pretty sure that Brad Wheeler said "m...I'm pretty sure that Brad Wheeler said "move beyond" and not "stop building."Will Sextonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14656668190219068914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990922102626688253.post-20211289718210670752011-02-08T22:40:41.878-05:002011-02-08T22:40:41.878-05:00A quick fact clarification: ramp-up committee work...A quick fact clarification: ramp-up committee work for Kuali OLE has been on-going since July 2010, not a whole year before coding. <br /><br />The long version is that work has included a conceptual data model team to document the vast landscape of data standards & best practices OLE should use and support, modeling licensing and rights administration models that have yet to be automated efficiently, detailing internal and external library-arena workflows, and most importantly gathering, analyzing, de-duplicating, and organizing over 3500 user stories for managing library data, collections, and services.<br /><br />While absolutely true that Kuali OLE itself is not a "toy" project, we are wholeheartedly encouraging and expecting "toy" projects to surround, tap into, and leverage Kuali OLE just as these same projects (or ones yet to be invented) tap into our outdated ILS's. In fact, we want it to be much, much easier. I put "toy" in quotes because I really think these projects have greater value to the community than the context of that word gives credit.<br /><br />Beyond that, Kuali really isn't putting a lot of eggs into one basket of OLE. OLE is rather just another basket of information ready to be exposed and used enterprise wide. (Other baskets are Kuali Finance, Kuali Student, Kuali Coeus [Research], Kuali Rice [middleware]). Missing in today's ILS systems is the ability to leverage the rest of that campus-wide data, or systems for that matter: student information, vendor relationships, legal requirements, identity management, research/grant administration, etc. The ROI of leveraging those existing systems within academic library services is an order of magnitude greater than the current investment in Kuali OLE.<br /><br />It was great to chat with you in person tonight. Let's keep the conversation going. Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990922102626688253.post-52446629417657600502011-02-08T18:30:27.204-05:002011-02-08T18:30:27.204-05:00That sounds analogous to the release early, releas...That sounds analogous to the release early, release often motto of the free software movement... <br />Great article! :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00594540092905345845noreply@blogger.com